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Thanks for the reminder about not just building a square box, Bryan. I will add that note to the booth design. :D

Steve, the side wall absorber diagram I am looking for was based on John's design (but I think you drew) and addressed a question someone had about how the slats were laid across the 1" x 2" and how much those 1" x 2" were beveled.

Also, being that I am thinking of building this portion of the project in smaller, easier stored sixes of 3' x 3' x 8", how much of detriment will the smaller size be to the low mid absorption as compared to John's 4' x 7'x 8" design?

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Look here

http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=23691

just over halfway down the page.

If you make the side absorbers much narrower, they will start to cause the side modes to "average" and won't control flutter as well; if you were to make them 4' wide and 3 feet tall, you could stack two (use rubber strips between to kill any rattles) and you'd still get the full effect.

If you're going to be moving these, I'd recommend thinking about light materials like plywood rather than MDF... Steve

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Thanks Steve! I appreciate the direction. :D

Okay, I can fit a 4' x 3' x 8" (w x h x d) into the space I've got and stack them two high, rubber strips between, so we'll go with that. Cool.

Plywood for lighter weight is a GREAT IDEA! I really wasn't looking forward to moving more of those MDF sheets...again!

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Ah, nuts!

I just realized that the wall unit juts out into the space for the first absorber on the left. This limits the length of the first section down to 3'. So I guess we'll have to go with two 3' x 3' x 8" stacked, and then two 4' x 3' x 8" stacked.


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Aloha everyone,

Just wanted wish y'all a Happy Thanksgiving! :D

I am thankful for this forum and for all of those who have made this possible and to all those who have so willing shared their hard earned experience, time and energy.

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Danke Ken...Happy Thanksgivign to you as well. :)

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Can't reach keyboard, stomach sticking out too far; someone please pass the pumpkin pie... :?

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Guilford of Maine arrived today, and is now installed. (pics to follow)

Hmm, interesting observation...I can still see the framing behind the cloth, albeit not as much as the weed cloth. Perhaps if one were to either stain or paint the framing a darker color (light colored pine was used) the end result might be a bit more discreet. Still, it's a much better look overall. Very cool.

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Just got back in from Jersey...Where are the pics. :)

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Here you go! :D

Edit: added previously unavailable shot of completed front wall :D

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Aloha,

Here are a couple of pics of the Side Absorbers - Rough Frame Up.

There have been a few changes in the design:

- Dimensions changed from 36" x 36" x 8" to 36" x 43" x 8" to level out even with front wall soffit.

- Second unit dimensions to be changed to 46" x 43" x 8"

- Rock wool & rear panel yet to be installed

Hemlock was used (currently available and somewhat more affordable)
Heavy duty felt pads on base to avoid rattles/scratching equipment rack
Christmas garland courtesy of mrs. kendale! :D

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Outstanding craftsmanship! 8)


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What are you going to do on the other side?
Won't having them on just one side stuff up the balance of the mix somewhat?
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Aloha John,

Kia Ora! :D

I am planning on having a matching set on the other side, albeit stacked two high.

The reasons I started with the right side of the room are:

- Only had enough cash for two units to begin side absorber project with :cry:
- I wanted to even out the distance from the right wall to the listening position with the distance to the left wall/unit

Thanks Keith. I have to confess that things have turned out so much better than I had expected, considering that I have not had a lot of woodworking experience. I believe much of the credit goes to having so many other studio build examples to study and the plans and direction from both John and Steve. :D

Aloha 8)


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