John Sayers' Design Forum

John Sayers' Recording Studio Design Forum

A World of Experience
Click Here for Information on John's Services
It is currently Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:40 am

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Headphone wiring
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:31 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:49 pm
Posts: 257
Location: Mansfield, Texas
After looking and searching, I still am unsure of what to use so here goes...

I need to make about 12 headphone runs.
My first choice is to have the headphone amps in the control area with me and send powered headphone feeds to wall plates (so people dont have to get up and adjust volumes). I generally only use mono headphone mixes if that helps but stereo runs are fine. What type of wiring would be best for longer runs? (50 foot)

If this a bad idea, my second choice would be to run a line level run down a balanced cable and simply put the headphone amps in the rooms with the musicians. It is just easier sometime to make the volume adjustments from my location while they are playing.

Thanks,
Tom

_________________
Tom Menikos
T-Mix Studios
Mansfield Tx


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:16 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:06 am
Posts: 1772
Location: Music City
Tom,

Do you need 12 headphone connections or 12 separate headphone/cue mixes?


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:29 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:49 pm
Posts: 257
Location: Mansfield, Texas
I need 12 different headphone connections.
I have the capability of running 4 different headphone mixes, but generally I only run 1 mix unless people complain.
I have 2 headphone amps (one six channel and one four channel) chained together but I can actually run them as 10 seperate channels.

Anyway, to get back to the point. Currently in my small studio (about 200 sq /ft) , my mix area is open to the tracking area I simply run long headphone extensions to where people are set up. But in the new studio (about 950 sq/ft) there are long enough runs I want to put the headphone extensions in the walls.

I hope that makes sense.
basically I want to run 10 to 14 headphone runs from the amps I have chained together. ( I am buying another 4 to 6 channel amp)

Eventually I want to run seperate mixes for the drum room, the main room and the vocal booth, but for now a single mix is fine.

_________________
Tom Menikos
T-Mix Studios
Mansfield Tx


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:24 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:06 am
Posts: 1772
Location: Music City
Let's make this easy.

What you need...in order of signal flow...
From console (or other send) to Power Amp.
From Power Amp you can run a mic cable or other multi-conductor cable to each room. Use an XLR jack Male (opposite of a mic input so someone doesn't plug into the wrong jack). Number of pins depends on the number of cue mixes you want possible. You can get 2 mono sends or one stereo send from a 3 pin XLR. The nice thing about the 3 pin, you can just use a mic cable to plug in the headphone boxes.
Now, you need some headphone/cue boxes. Let the musicians control their own "master" volume. The only adjustments you as the engineer need to do is adjust how much "more me" they want from the aux sends.

If you need more info or a wiring scheme l'll try and give more details.


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:02 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:49 pm
Posts: 257
Location: Mansfield, Texas
Aaron,
Thanks!
That sounds good. I understand what you are saying.
I was not sure how mic cabling stood up to the 1 watt or so that the headphone amps sometimes put out. I figure the mic cables are good for line level anyway.

_________________
Tom Menikos
T-Mix Studios
Mansfield Tx


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Headphone wiring
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:57 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:53 pm
Posts: 3
When ever I plug in my headphones to the 3.5mm front jack, the sound is extremely distorted. I've tried multiple headphones, uninstalled/reinstalled the drivers and the problem still exists. I've also performed the troubleshoot sound sequence with no success. Can someone assist with this issue? Thanks in advance. :)


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Headphone wiring
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:05 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:17 am
Posts: 11137
Location: Santiago, Chile
rymonsandy wrote:
When ever I plug in my headphones to the 3.5mm front jack, the sound is extremely distorted. I've tried multiple headphones, uninstalled/reinstalled the drivers and the problem still exists. I've also performed the troubleshoot sound sequence with no success. Can someone assist with this issue? Thanks in advance. :)

Hi. Please read the forum rules for posting (click here). You seem to be missing a couple of things! :)

- Stuart -

_________________
I want this studio to amaze people. "That'll do" doesn't amaze people.


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:20 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:18 am
Posts: 1
tmix wrote:
I need 12 different headphone connections.
I have the capability of running 4 different headphone mixes, but generally I only run 1 mix unless people complain.
I have 2 headphone amps [SPAM LINK REMOVED BY MODERATOR] (one six channel and one four channel) chained together but I can actually run them as 10 seperate channels.

Anyway, to get back to the point. Currently in my small studio (about 200 sq /ft) , my mix area is open to the tracking area I simply run long headphone extensions to where people are set up. But in the new studio (about 950 sq/ft) there are long enough runs I want to put the headphone extensions in the walls.

I hope that makes sense.
basically I want to run 10 to 14 headphone runs from the amps I have chained together. ( I am buying another 4 to 6 channel amp)

Eventually I want to run seperate mixes for the drum room, the main room and the vocal booth, but for now a single mix is fine.

It seems complicated


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Headphone wiring
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:23 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:17 am
Posts: 11137
Location: Santiago, Chile
Mardi02 wrote:
It seems complicated
You are replying to a thread that is twelve YEARS old... That, combined with your meaningless, useless comment and your glaring failure to follow the forum rules, lead me to take a closer look at your post, ... where I easily spotted the dumb spam link you tried to hide!

So buh-BYE|

- Stuart -

_________________
I want this studio to amaze people. "That'll do" doesn't amaze people.


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Headphone wiring
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:23 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:34 am
Posts: 205
Location: California USA
Bad guys are just everywhere!!man...


Report this post
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group