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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:01 am 
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Hi All,

After the third year in my new home, I have begun construction in earnest on my 2nd gen studio in West Virginia. I have been reviewing my design and thought before I got too far along, I would go ahead and start posting :) I greatly appreciate all the info and time people have put into this forum. I am posting this build for others to learn. My previous studio build can be found here http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7254

Looking forward to your comments,
Cheers,
Kevin

Here are the basics of the new studio:

Studio Purpose: I am building a semi-commercial space for live instrument recording, podcasting, some videography and other related uses. Semi-commercial means I intend to register this as a business, but will not be my primary source of income. Live instrumentation means most typical rock/alt/folk band arrangements, vocals, bass, guitar (amped, acoustic), drums, etc. I intend to record musical albums, audio projects and one offs, as well as mix. I will possibly also rent space to a few fellow engineers who need studio space.

Studio Structure:

Walk out basement studio build. Approx 1200 total sqft
two walls are completely underground the other two are essentially at grade.
Cement block walls. Drylocked, 2" XPS Insulation, 2x4 stick framed interior walls, batt filled. Single 5/8th drywall for most walls.
94" ceiling height. Double 5/8 drywall

Space divided as:
2 tracking rooms
1 iso booth
1 RFZ control room
stairs/hallway/green (Will provide airlock/ separation.)
1 full bath (existing)

Upstairs (not studio space) traditionally wood framed 3bd ranch house 28x50 (1400sqft). 2x10 floor joists. Home was built 2006.
Attached 26x28 2.5 car garage


Limitations: This is in my own home and have no other residents to be concerned with. There are no building restrictions, zoning, permitting or codes to follow. (I will follow NEC). I am in a mostly rural area but neighbors are close (within 100'). The closest neighbor has a motorcycle shop, so this may pose a serious problem, but I have a good relation with him and may be able to avoid “scheduling” conflicts. It is not practical for me to isolate my rooms/house for bikes that can exceed 110db. (older bikes intentionally built loud).
The space needs to add value to my home and be convertible to useable space if the need to move/sell arises. I have read almost this entire forum and realize the limitations I am in and accept those. I am working within my budget and with what I have. If for some miraculous reason the studio project takes off and I can afford it, I will build a completely separate building elsewhere on my property later. For now, I am going to accept the limitations

I am not installing drywall to the underside of the flooring above. If needed later, I will install MLV and hardwood floors above (which will be more cost efficient and offer a greater return on investment. I am not going to use z channel. I am concerned with ceiling height and it's overall efficiency... IE it may just not be worth the cost and effort, especially since I have a single beam that I will not be able to effectively frame around for the main live room. The same approach for dual framed walls, it's just not worth losing the space, the time, effort and money (again most walls already have a block wall underground and there are complete rooms between recording spaces.

Budget: As with 99% people on this forum, I have a limited budget. I intend to pay for things out of pocket, my estimated materials costs are about 9-10k (excluding HVAC). I will do all construction, installation myself (excluding HVAC). I will have an electrician inspect all electrical work I do. I may post my budget spreadsheet at the end of the post if people will find that helpful. DM me in the meantime if you are interested in the breakdown. If you intend on contracting out the work, you will probably need to add 50-60% for markup and labor.

Electric: Main panel 200amp in garage. I am running a 60amp sub-panel to run all studio electrical outlets. All lighting and shop/bath outlets will run from circuits off the main panel. The sub panel is to facilitate ease of installation (easier to run 1 thick wire from main panel to the basement than all circuits). I also wanted easier access to a tripped breaker if the need arises. There may be additional benefits such as creating a common ground/neutral for all circuits the studio equipment will be on. I have also considered a power conditioner for this panel, but I am not certain.

Lighting - lighting is very important ! Not just for light, but for mood and impression. I have put considerable time into designing the lighting system (still not done). I intend on having three or 4 lighting systems per room.
Work - general lighting for setup/cleanup/teardown. (LED strip lights)
Task - lighting for music stands/audio console/pictures areas (Track lighting?)
Ambient - sets the mood, can provide indirect lighting (christmas lights, misc moveable pendants, etc...)
Theatrical - allows for artist specific lighting, color changing, special effects, etc... (special theatrical fixtures or FX lighting)

HVAC: I am planning on installing HVAC, but will contract this out. Depending on cost, this may or may not get done upon initial completion, I am currently getting bids and discussing system design options with contractors. I will use either an extended forced air heat pump (current system) or zoned ductless. This will depend on costs. I will post more details and decision in the thread.

Layout:

See the attached layout. (layout is from HomeDesigner). The bath / hall was completed when I moved in. The layout was somewhat predetermined due to the placement of the existing bath and HVAC/Hot water systems.



As of this post I already have everything framed except the control room. That room is going to be done last (as it currently is storing all equipment). I will need to look at the framing angles, splay walls soffit mounted etc...all of that is still in design.

Control Room - the control room is still under design, so I am very open to suggestions at this point.

Acoustic treatment: I retained a considerable amount of my absorbers from the previous studio build. I will add where necessary and build new ones, where necessary.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:17 am 
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Failure is always an option. This is the short, painful story of failure.

My initial plan for my studio was to acid stain the existing concrete floor. I put in some serious time/effort to clean, wash and rinse the floor (weeks worth of time). I tested an area under the stairs, and it looked good. I then applied several colors of acid stain. The floor turned out beautiful. It was exactly what I had in my mind. After neutralizing, I went to do the final rinse, i couldn't get the wash water clean. In fact, i kept noticing that the color seemed to wash off the more I rinsed an area. I took photos and sent them to the acid stain manufacturer. They said there was only one possibility, which is that there is fly ash in the concrete. I live in WV, of course there is fly ash in concrete here. I mentioned to them that there did not appear to be any written notice to not use acid stain on concrete that contains flyash. They have since added that notice to their installation guide. I am not blaming them for my lack of knowledge. This post is intended to be yet one more reminder to all of you to do your own homework before investing your money. And that even then, failure may happen. Move on.

Here is a link to the album. https://goo.gl/photos/dSqryRLYEWXbJsRK7

You'll see pictures of the second attempt to treat the floor. I had already purchased tinted sealer for use on top of the stained floor (supposed to be almost black). So the red color was supposed to somewhat lighten and contrast the dark floor underneath, which would have been the goal. Instead, I ordered an additional gallon of black tinted sealer to mix with the red color (in varying amounts to create several darker red and brown colors). Not the planned outcome, but it will serve its function.

Finally, i put down 5 coats of wax as the wear layer. I spent extra money on a satin (low gloss) wax which should have been great for the acid stain, but looks a bit muted on the more standard tinted sealer... live and learn.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:51 am 
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It looks great now. Thanks for the heads up about concrete additives as I plan to treat my slab soonish! Thanks for the awesome update!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:19 am 
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Hi All,

I do intend to actually write and post photos in this forum (without links) about my build process and choices... but, I have had minimal time to put in the effort, so for now... I am going to share a link to my studio build album. Feel free to ask questions of my life...errr building choices. I post almost daily photos. Small bites of the elephant.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/TP4pAEfyoasws8Rf6

I am currently in the electrical, wiring rough in phase. My anticipated completion date will be Fall 2019. Completion in this sense means thru paint minus acoustic treatments.

Cheers,
Kevin

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