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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:31 am 
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Hi All,
I write here seeking help for a new building in which i will set my recording studio.

the attached file is the concrete wall perimeter with correct measures (meters).

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21881799/new%20studio.skp

I would like to have suggestion about dividing the hole space to obtain at least a CR a live room and a small service bathroom.
Great it will be to have also a small vocal/isobooth.

Any suggestion in shape will be appreciated.
thanks in advance for replies.


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:21 pm 
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After a few attemps i've come up with this.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21881799/newstudiowalls.skp

Gray is concrete, yellow is frames and drywall.
any suggestion about shapes and spaces?

thanks


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:15 am 
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please update your profile with your location and read the "read this before posting" sticky to provide enough details on what you're trying to achieve.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:16 pm 
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Sorry for my negligence.

I would like to build a new building in my garden and I've something like a 15x6 meters space.
Max Height could be something around 3,5 meters.
The building will be brand new so i must decide also materials for walls, roof and floor.
The garden is located in a residential area (houses around and near a school) so a good level of sound isolation is required.

Adding a live room inside means that there will be a large amount of spl involved (drumset and guitar amps)
Since i would like to put a CR, a Live room and a vocal boot also internal isolation is an issue.

The studio will be somehow commercial, so in the CR i will need a visitor area and a bathroom inside the building.
the budget is around 30000 € for the mainbuilding and for the internal frames and structure.

A first idea i came up with :



thanks for any reply. Hope being correct.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:23 am 
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is "somewhat commercial" like being "slightly pregnant"? :mrgreen: disabilities law and so on should be important considerations as well as fire and safety (not that you should ignore that ever, it's just that commercial buildings have higher standards) just as a general thought - all concrete and block floors (note multiple) and walls (inside and out) will get you a long ways there. i'd also suggest that a 90m2 building will be more than 30K EURO... i'd suspect it's closer to 200K.

would it be easer to make a rectangular building and put the rooms into that? on the design the CR drywalls would extend to the concrete walls and then shaped inside for treatment - one concern - the drywall on either side of the live room and CR would be a triple leaf. plus you'd turn the CR to face the other way for the entry into the back of the room and put in windows (and assuming you like a side view versus front view). the iso booths are ok but maybe block walls would be better on separate concrete pads - so lobby-bath 1 pad, CR 1 pad, live room and iso booths 3 pads. inter connect with conduit overhead along with ducting for air and HVAC.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:42 am 
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Thanks a lot for your quick reply.

The cost of the structure is something around 10k € made of concrete. Here in Italy concrete is cheap .. and wood is very pricey;
A 150mq common house madeof concrete (and bricks) from scratch (walls roof internal floors and outside finish) on two floors is around 100k ...
We must build everything with hard concrete because of seismic phenomenons and everything is in compliance with ISO laws (safety laws).
Drywalls sctructures are made of alluminum, not wood because of fire compliance.

The wall between the two rooms (CR and LR) will be removed according your suggestion, and I will talk with the builder about divide the concrete floor under different rooms.


My questions are:

I read various books about CR design but i would like to know if it is better to shape the CR with outer walls as a rectangle and then make internal treatment walls angled or it is better to angle drywall itselves?

Is the CR well sized in relation with the building?

Is the STC made of a drywall and a concrete wall enough to isolate bathroom from the other rooms?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:23 am 
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it might be easier to create the rooms as rectangles (and i'd say all concrete all around - ceiling too if that is an option) then build in the false walls and ceilings for angled treatments. surface mount electric and consider your HVAC well in advance.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:15 pm 
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Thanks!

Did I get it right? attached file. (I did only CR)

WIll be the isolation between rooms enough with a single concrete wall??
Low frequency trasmission will be an issue even with floating floor?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:42 am 
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i'm thinking simpler...


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