WiseMinds Recording Studios Thread

JohnGardner · **Posted:** Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:38 am

Hi Andy,
Any snaps of the control room finished with all the gear in and going?
JohnG

WiseMindsRecordingStudios · **Posted:** Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:55 am

Actually bro there is a QT video a few posts back.. here are a couple til the new website gets fully crackin...

Thanks for the post.

JohnGardner · **Posted:** Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:23 am

Very nice,
Is that a Roland vs2480 I see on the desk there?
I just sold a VS1880 and am waiting for delivery of a new Akai DPS24.
Both nice machines.
JohnG

WiseMindsRecordingStudios · **Posted:** Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:08 pm

JohnGardner wrote:

Very nice,
Is that a Roland vs2480 I see on the desk there?
I just sold a VS1880 and am waiting for delivery of a new Akai DPS24.
Both nice machines.
JohnG

Yep thats the 2480, I have another coming. I also run ProTools M-powered and a host of other apps. I have the RPC1 card in my host PC so 8 tracks of digital are available for extra software plugins, tracking, mastering, etc through the RBUS and the PC. Cant wait to get #2 to bump my studio to 48 physical tracks.

ruben · **Posted:** Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:49 pm

I really Like how both rooms look Andy and the color is real cool .
I also read how you started booking sesions and thats great.
Little by little I know you will upgrade your recording gear just by the way you have made your studio look. I have a digi 001 and 3 Alesis adats but the thing is that the converters are not that great like on pro tools hd or apogee so I'm upgrading ASAP. Keep up the good work

WiseMindsRecordingStudios · **Posted:** Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:05 am

ruben wrote:

I really Like how both rooms look Andy and the color is real cool .
I also read how you started booking sesions and thats great.
Little by little I know you will upgrade your recording gear just by the way you have made your studio look. I have a digi 001 and 3 Alesis adats but the thing is that the converters are not that great like on pro tools hd or apogee so I'm upgrading ASAP. Keep up the good work

Thanks bro, yeah the Digi 001 to me was too "home studio". I do run M-Powered Protools when needed. I prefer the VS for my work but PT is a necessary evil I am afraid. Of course if I had my choice....I would have a built in console etc....ahhh someday.

the_riff · **Posted:** Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:24 pm

Andy,

Amazing thread. I plan on trying you MDF door treatment.

One question for you.

How high are your ceilings in your drum room? They seem to be on the low side like mine (mine are 8 feet). I wanted to construct some clouds for it similar to yours. Can you give some insight about your construction of those?

I have a lot of Roxul leftover from the build and wanted to try building with that. Let me know. thanks.

Ro · **Posted:** Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:21 pm

About the doors (I didn't follow earlier threads about this I guess)

Why exactly did you (or were your recommeded to) use mdf/hollow/mdf ?
Why not massive doors ?
coz of the costs involved?

cheers.

guitardad72 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:25 pm

Hey Andy,

Here’s another question to add to the small pile growing in this thread. I thought I saw a previous post about your sidewalls, but could not re-find the topic.

Am I seeing correctly that one of your side walls is a (splayed) slot resonator wall AND the other side wall (with the window) is a (splayed) solid wood finished wall?

If that is the case then a series of questions (cause I'm considering doing this):
Have you noticed any symmetry problems when mixing?
Are mixes translating well as far as the stereo mix is concerned?
I am hoping you’re not going to say instrument’s in the range of your slot resonator, when mixed center are being pulled to either side as a result of having the slot on only one wall.

BTW room looks fat.

Marc

WiseMindsRecordingStudios · **Posted:** Thu May 18, 2006 4:43 pm

Hey guys, I haven't been dissin you and your questions... I have been super buys which is a good thing. I will attempt to answer all of these questions in the next day or so... I hope I am not too late. :oops:

WiseMindsRecordingStudios · **Posted:** Thu May 18, 2006 4:51 pm

the_riff wrote:

Andy,

Amazing thread. I plan on trying you MDF door treatment.

One question for you.

How high are your ceilings in your drum room? They seem to be on the low side like mine (mine are 8 feet). I wanted to construct some clouds for it similar to yours. Can you give some insight about your construction of those?

I have a lot of Roxul leftover from the build and wanted to try building with that. Let me know. thanks.

Hey Riff, the ceilings in the drum room are 9ft. The clouds were constructed from aluminum roofing drip edge bought at Lowes. You can find it in the insulation/roofing aisle. I used #6 703 Owens fiberglass which comes in 24" x 48" sheets. I covered the 703 in 2 layers of muslin and fitted into the lightweight frames constructed from the drip edge. I do have pix of the assembly somewhere, I will try to find them. I used eye hooks to hang the clouds and then cable keepers to cover the suspension cables.. just gave it a finished look. I also made 4 more of these to hang on the wall which are constructed without the frame. They are held ridged by mounting the muslin covered 703 to a 24" x 48" sheet of masonite. I used the same coated hanging wire to suspend them on screws anchored to my walls around the room. This allows me to take these down and hang them on a mic stand as an impromtu, moveable baffle. Hope this helps... I will find my pix and post them.

WiseMindsRecordingStudios · **Posted:** Thu May 18, 2006 4:57 pm

Ro wrote:

About the doors (I didn't follow earlier threads about this I guess)

Why exactly did you (or were your recommeded to) use mdf/hollow/mdf ?
Why not massive doors ?
coz of the costs involved?

cheers.

Somewhere on this site there is a post about the advantages/disadvantages to going solid core. In my situation,non-staggered stud wall, shallow depth, the wall is just 12" thick, a single door solution was used. If I were going for a double door, I most likely would have used 2 solid doors. Although, I would have to seriously think about that after being so impressed with my current door.

The 2 doors were tested in my situation, I have a solid core door that I tried first. The MDF/Hollow/MDF or 3 leaf door was far superior in performance. My drummer who kills the kit when he plays can be rockin out in the live room, and in the control room you can talk comfortably without raising your voice. My studio is a 5 year project, and that is the most I could ask for. I did not expect to be half as good, so I was blown away when it was completed and performed so perfectly.

WiseMindsRecordingStudios · **Posted:** Thu May 18, 2006 5:07 pm

guitardad72 wrote:

Hey Andy,

Here’s another question to add to the small pile growing in this thread. I thought I saw a previous post about your sidewalls, but could not re-find the topic.

Am I seeing correctly that one of your side walls is a (splayed) slot resonator wall AND the other side wall (with the window) is a (splayed) solid wood finished wall?

If that is the case then a series of questions (cause I'm considering doing this):
Have you noticed any symmetry problems when mixing?
Are mixes translating well as far as the stereo mix is concerned?
I am hoping you’re not going to say instrument’s in the range of your slot resonator, when mixed center are being pulled to either side as a result of having the slot on only one wall.

BTW room looks fat.

Marc

Marc, how the hell are ya man? Sorry to you and the others that my posts are so late.

To answer your question, the only thing I have noticed so far (after doing 3 full length CDS) is that there is a null zone if I am leaning too far over my desk. The null is all low end frequencies (sub woofer). The res wall was built to combat any reflected frequencies that might be exprerienced from the window being parallel to my listening position. I didin't want sound reflecting between the two walls, not to mention it breaks up the symmetry of the room nicely. It was a crap shoot, but I got lucky and it works. I cant say if it would work for you or not. I tried to plan around every corner, twice... but some of what I did was a calculated experiment. For the most part....it all works. I am still working on isolating the downstairs rehearsal rooms from the control room. They are not in the same building so it is mainly my laziness that is stopping me from just putting up another door at the bottom of the stairs with some acoustic treatments to quell the noise.

the_riff · **Posted:** Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:39 pm

WiseMindsRecordingStudios wrote:

the_riff wrote:

Andy,

Amazing thread. I plan on trying you MDF door treatment.

One question for you.

How high are your ceilings in your drum room? They seem to be on the low side like mine (mine are 8 feet). I wanted to construct some clouds for it similar to yours. Can you give some insight about your construction of those?

I have a lot of Roxul leftover from the build and wanted to try building with that. Let me know. thanks.

Hey Riff, the ceilings in the drum room are 9ft. The clouds were constructed from aluminum roofing drip edge bought at Lowes. You can find it in the insulation/roofing aisle. I used #6 703 Owens fiberglass which comes in 24" x 48" sheets. I covered the 703 in 2 layers of muslin and fitted into the lightweight frames constructed from the drip edge. I do have pix of the assembly somewhere, I will try to find them. I used eye hooks to hang the clouds and then cable keepers to cover the suspension cables.. just gave it a finished look. I also made 4 more of these to hang on the wall which are constructed without the frame. They are held ridged by mounting the muslin covered 703 to a 24" x 48" sheet of masonite. I used the same coated hanging wire to suspend them on screws anchored to my walls around the room. This allows me to take these down and hang them on a mic stand as an impromtu, moveable baffle. Hope this helps... I will find my pix and post them.

Thanks Andy, I'm on my way to Lowe's tomorrow to see if I can find this stuff.

knightfly · **Posted:** Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:32 am

From Andy -

Somewhere on this site there is a post about the advantages/disadvantages to going solid core. In my situation,non-staggered stud wall, shallow depth, the wall is just 12" thick, a single door solution was used. If I were going for a double door, I most likely would have used 2 solid doors. Although, I would have to seriously think about that after being so impressed with my current door.

For those interested in this, check here -

http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1662

HTH... Steve

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