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 Post subject: XLR Plates to Patchbay?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:34 am 
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Hey guys, just joined the forum, what a great place. Anyhow, I'm in the process of building my own studio, and have been a audio student for a while, yet in the process of designing this project I have come across a concern in which I believe my education never covered. I have a tough time determining connections electrically and was wondering for my fellow peer's inputs. So this is what I am hoping to achieve -

1) Install a 16 XLRf plate in the live room, and a 4 in the vocal booth, soldering the panels to a 16 channel snake with pre existing 1/4 inch trs balanced connectors on the other end.

2) Connect the 20 1/4 inch ends to the outs of a Neutrik NYSSPPL 48-Point TRS Balanced Patchbay in my control room and set them to half-normaled.

3) With 12 1/4 inch to XLRm coming from the (output matched) ins on the patchbay, into 8 mic pres on my digimax fs and 4 on my 003. (I know still small)

I want to be able to use both sets of mic pres on either device and in each room, and make room for more pres in the future, so I want to use a patchbay.

I know I explained the signal flow a little backwards, but will this work, or am I completely lost? Am I missing any steps, or are there any concerns I should be aware of?


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The basic concept of a mic patch bay is sound. For mic level signals though you need to have connections with larger surface area. Either standard patch bay connectors or xlrs with hanging pigtails.

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Surface Area????


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NativeLuv17 wrote:
Surface Area????


Contact surface area of the connectors and the switches. Adding to that, corrosion resistance becomes very important.

I did not mention it, but it is good practice to have unique connectors for mic level patching to avoid damaging equipment with wrong levels, 48V etc.

Andre


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I think Im gonna roll with a Redco TT/DB25 96pt Patchbay, which can handle my rerouting mic signal desire. Go Xlrf to db25 for my outs, and run db25 to xlrm/trs/ts for the ins. Blaca!!!


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Have fun. Make sure get a burnishing tool and injector for the patchbay. Markertek has some here.

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